Hey guys!
As you know, we've begun to dig into the pre-Civil War era and have been going into detail on the causes of sectionalism and political disputes which eventually leads to the Civil War.
During the early 1800s - 1860s, there has been much change and conflict in politics, economy, and geography that determined the two major players and their beliefs in the Civil War, the North and the South. Please post how these changes and set beliefs of the Civil War has affected the outcome of modern stereotypical politics and social thoughts per region of the country.
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I don't really understand what you're asking.
Like, I'm asking for you guys to talk about how the sectionalism of the Civil War affected on how modern politics and social stereotype (example, how people stereotype the South today as 'hillbillies' and in-breeds) came to be.
I personally think that because the South was always complaining about the tariffs and getting a fair balance in the Senate, the North began to call them names which evolved into harsher stereotypes based off of the way the Southerners lived, their speech, and their culture.
Adding on to that, some Southerners still believe in sectionalism and the Conferacy. Some still run confederate flags, and hate the North, which would've contributed to further stereotypes.
Due to the sectionalism of the Civil War many people are discriminated against during the civil right movement. Even still today there are people in the deep south are still thinking that the confederacy should' ve won.
Well, the sectionalism that occurred as a result of pro/anti slavery populations pitted the north against the south. And from that, stereotypes were derived that harped on the naturally urbanized and socially elevated status of northerners, and the semi illiterate/secluded/rural life of southerners.
South's grudge and bitterness towards the Civil War still applies to the world today. Like Ms. Chipman said, there are still Confederate flags in the South and where their accents are hillbillies.
I suppose you could also argue two different possible reasons for Southern stereotypes (in addition to many others of course). One thing is that the North, being sour about the South temporarily damaging the union and causing hassle, decided to begin name calling. The other possibility is that the North was simply talking about something they truly knew little about. Sometimes when faced with something unfamiliar people have a tendency to make judgments. The North was not familiar with the strong, almost foreign accents, the interesting cuisine, the culture and religion, and the beliefs and actions of the South which they discovered when entering the South as soldiers. And just like that the terms were conceived to describe the Southerners. We can never really be sure I suppose, just some ideas I’m throwing around.
Didnt Jerome in Class say that southern Illinois is very different from The Chicago And Northern Areas. With people flying Confederate flags around in their backyards. These events that occured at the time may very well affect the views people have today they could southern pride and their political ideas maybe diffrent from those from another part of the country.
I feel that there is much less sectionalism in the American economy today than most of you give credit for. All types of similar industries and businesses are being run all over the country. You have many northern farms in Idaho and Maine, and southern meatpacking in Texas. The idea of the confederate symbol still around today is to simply show pride for the South.
The South probably agrees slavery is not something to be proud of, but they show their pride in their past with the Confederate flag. They don't want to lose their identity.
Oh hey edgar thanks for the shoutout.
Nice to some one's paying attention to my useless tangents >_>
I suppose you could argue that there isn't as much sectionalism as there was during the time of the civil war but you could definitely say that people today understand and accept the things that define the Southerners more than during the war. For example, the northerners were probably confused about Southern food, their accents and small things like that (we talked about this in class) but today we disregard the fact that their speech is different and we are intrigued by their cuisine. I feel like there is still some sectionalism between the South but there is a larger sectional difference between other states (for example Utah, Kansas, Wyoming, Nebraska, North and South Dakota, etc.). During the Civil War we discriminated based on cuisine differences and speech barriers in the South, like I said before. I have thought about it and come to realize that many people discriminate and make judgments about the original west states being dull and boring and lifeless. And they are rural but many people come to the conclusion that rural areas, and not states with large cities (ex. Illinois, New York, Louisiana, Florida, etc.) which include both the original North and South, are still populated and modern. Of course there are some states that contradict my point (ex. California, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, etc.). But I think that today the South has minimal sectionalism and is more connected with the North than the new “production (grain, corn, etc.) states of the Plains”.
In my opinion the stereotypes generated by the northerners to the southerners branched off of their ways of living and who they were as people. Stereotypes are generally created based on statistics. For exaple if many southerners talk with accent , complain about tariffs and make reference to the northerners way of living being too uptight then thereofre the stereotype is created. Today there are stereotypes for every single race.
For example african american are seen as loud mouth and incorrect in manner.
In my opinion the stereotypes generated by the northerners to the southerners branched off of their ways of living and who they were as people. Stereotypes are generally created based on statistics. For exaple if many southerners talk with accent , complain about tariffs and make reference to the northerners way of living being too uptight then thereofre the stereotype is created. Today there are stereotypes for every single race.
For example african american are seen as loud mouth and incorrect in manner.
In society steriotypes need to exist because that is usually what helps an individual form a first impression which is at times corect . Mrs. Chipman stated in class tat today confederate flags may comonnly still exist around some southern homes. They may also use a different type of slang or way of living oin the south. The congress at the time want to reconstruct teh southe and create a society similiar to the north if not a complete replica. The south has always been the lower hand in teh American society.
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